Yes, you get an armor roll, but thralls are AV 7 so they are breaking armor ~42% of the time. You are going to have a LOT more self-attrition than before due to the increased volume of knockdowns. The real issue IMO is the huge chance of Animal Savagery coming into play. Your cage is likely going to disintegrate halfway up the field. I'm not sure how great their running game will be with Vamp ball carriers if they have to knock down their cage half the time just to move forward, yes they might not break armor but the thralls are going to struggle to keep up if they are constantly on the ground. There's a bunch of stuff that Vampires would've been happy to get in the new edition, yet more counterplay options isn't really one of them. It's worth noting that they can no longer slake their thirst on a knocked down thrall, which forces you to stand them up before the Vamp activates and potentially messes up your action economy as well as prevents you from biting a stunned thrall.Īlso, forcing the knockdown before their action makes it easier for your opponent to control your activations since pushing a thrall away from a Vampire forces you to get the thrall back into position before the Vamp can act safely. I'm far from a grizzled veteran Vampire coach, so take my thoughts with a clove of garlic, but not as optimistic after a first reading. Read all of the related reddits at once = Other GW Gamesīringing back the Specialist Games vibe, slowly:

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